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In Fargo, directed and produced by the Coen brothers, Marge Gunderson is a beacon of light in darkness. Rather than become frenzied in the surrounding chaos, she remains steady when those whom she investigates make one bad choice after another in their attempt to attain what they want but don’t have.

In this episode, Dr. Chris Hall, Renovaré's President Emeritus and former Director of Academic Spiritual Formation and Distinguished Professor of Theology at Eastern University, and host Kristy Lahoda discuss how Marge lives a slow life of simplicity, exuding stability. As a result, she has heightened awareness of the environment and people around her. We, too, can live life this way in order to become like Jesus, who lived a simple life in the slow lane. When we practice simplicity and slowing, we are available and better able to discern what God brings before us each day.

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Guest

Dr. Chris Hall
President Emeritus of Ren­o­varé

Chris is the president emeritus of Ren­o­varé where he served from 2015 to 2022. Prior to his time at Ren­o­varé, he was the Director of Academic Spiritual Formation and Dis­tin­guished Pro­fes­sor of The­ol­o­gy at East­ern Uni­ver­si­ty. He has also authored numerous books includ­ing Liv­ing Wise­ly with the Church Fathers, The Mys­tery of God, Read­ing Scrip­ture with the Church Fathers, Learn­ing The­ol­o­gy with the Church Fathers, Wor­ship­ing with the Church Fathers, and The Trin­i­ty. His latest book A Different Way: Recentering the Christian Life Around Following Jesus is set to be released in spring 2023. Chris and his wife Deb­bie reside in Philadel­phia. They have three grown chil­dren and two grandchildren.

Chris Hall portrait

Host

Kristy Lahoda
Fiction Writer, Spiritual Formation Practitioner, and Fiction that Forms Us Creator and Host

Kristy is a Renovaré Institute for Christian Spiritual Formation graduate (2018-2021), has a Ph.D. in chemistry, and is a contract scientific technical editor. She lives in central Ohio with Rob, her husband of 18 years, and their three children, 14 year-old girl/boy twins and a 12 year-old boy.

Kristy Lahoda

Show Notes

At 5:22, Chris mentions the Latin phrase, meditatio scripturarum:

This simply means to meditate on scripture. Lectio Divina—divine reading—is to read and pray the scriptures.

 

At 6:26, Chris mentions Jonathan Bailey, a member of Renovaré's Board and Ministry Team:

A link to Bible app Dwell.

 

At 7:11, Chris brings up Word on Fire's The Liturgy of the Hours:

Here's a link.

 

At 12:21, Chris tells us his mentor's name: Jim (James) Houston:

His personal website, and his Regent College link.

 

At 13:15, Chris mentions a quote that Richard said:

In fact, Chris is referring to where Richard Foster in Celebration of Discipline quotes Carl Jung. However, Richard has something important (and well-known in spiritual formation circles) to teach us about hurry as well. Here he says, “In contemporary society our Adversary majors in three things: noise, hurry, and crowds. If he can keep us engaged in 'muchness' and 'manyness,' he will rest satisfied. Psychiatrist Carl Jung once remarked, 'Hurry is not of the Devil; it is the Devil.'"

Richard J. Foster, Celebration of Discipline: The Path to Spiritual Growth (New York: HarperCollins Publishers, 1998), 15.

 

At 13:25, Chris mentions his new book that HarperOne is releasing. Before April 4, you can preorder it at the link below:

A Different Way: Recentering the Christian Life Around Following Jesus

 

At 13:31, Chris tells us about a conversation between John Ortberg and Dallas Willard (in fact, it was Dallas):

"Entering into a very busy season of ministry, I called Dallas to ask him what I needed to do to stay spiritually healthy. I pictured him sitting in that room as we talked. There was a long pause — with Dallas there was nearly always a long pause — and then he said slowly, “You must ruthlessly eliminate hurry from your life.” I quickly wrote that down. Most people take notes with Dallas; I have even seen his wife take notes, which my wife rarely does with me. “Okay, Dallas,” I responded. “I’ve got that one. Now what other spiritual nuggets do you have for me? I don’t have a lot of time, and I want to get all the spiritual wisdom from you that I can.” “There is nothing else,” he said, generously acting as if he did not notice my impatience. “Hurry is the great enemy of spiritual life in our day. You must ruthlessly eliminate hurry from your life.”

John Ortberg, Soul Keeping: Caring For the Most Important Part of You (Grand Rapids: Zondervan, 2014), Kindle Edition, 20.

 

At 14:20, I mention church fathers asking for/giving "words":

Here's a brief excerpt from an author (in this case, editor) whom I love:

The monks might ask one another for a ‘word’ (‘Speak a word, abba’ was a frequent request), and in a sense this form of communication was fundamental to the method of the desert. The comments of the monks that were offered were not pieces of general teaching but a few words that were regarded as a word from God to an individual, and they were received not as a starting point for debate, but as a sacrament to be lived by. The words were pondered over and absorbed in silence until they were understood with the whole person, not just with the intellect.

Benedicta Ward, The Desert Fathers: Sayings of the Early Christian Monks (New York: Penguin Books Ltd., 2003), Kindle Edition, loc 524.

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All Flame by Carolyn Arends

Thank you to Carolyn Arends for permission to use her song, "All Flame", from the album Recognition, for the podcast's intro and outro. Carolyn is a singer/songwriter, the Director of Education at Renovaré, and was one of my instructors in the Renovaré Institute. She has become a dear friend.

You can learn more about Carolyn at carolynarends.com.

If you'd like to purchase the song or the album, you can download it at her web store.

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